The Washington Post revealed the complete transcript of the decision between Donald Trump and Georgia’s Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger, which has led to requires Trump to face a prison probe, accused by two Home Democrats of conspiracy to intervene in elections.

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On the decision on Saturday January 2 have been Trump, his chief of employees Mark Meadows, and Republican attorneys Cleta Mitchell and Kurt Hilbert, and from Georgia Raffesnperger and his basic counsel Ryan Germany. Not on the decision however talked about was Georgia Governor Brian Kemp.

Right here is the complete transcript: 

White Home Chief of Workers Mark Meadows: Okay. Alright. Mr. President, everyone seems to be on the road. That is Mark Meadows, the chief of employees. Simply so all of us are conscious. On the road is secretary of state and two different people. Jordan and Mr. Germany with him. You even have the attorneys that characterize the president, Kurt and Alex and Cleta Mitchell — who shouldn’t be the legal professional of document however has been concerned — myself after which the president. So Mr. President, I am going to flip it over to you. 

President Donald Trump: Okay, thanks very a lot. Whats up Brad and Ryan and all people. We recognize the time and the decision. So we have spent a number of time on this, and if we may simply go over among the numbers, I believe it is fairly clear that we gained. We gained very considerably in Georgia. You even see it by rally measurement, frankly. We would be getting 25-30,000 individuals a rally, and the competitors would get lower than 100 individuals. And it by no means made sense.

However we now have a lot of issues. We have now not less than 2 or 3 — anyplace from 250 to 300,000 ballots have been dropped mysteriously into the rolls. A lot of that needed to do with Fulton County, which hasn’t been checked. We expect that for those who test the signatures — an actual test of the signatures going again in Fulton County — you may discover not less than a few hundred thousand of solid signatures of people that have been solid. And we’re fairly certain that is going to occur.

Donald Trump pressured Georgia's Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to 'find' enough votes to overturn Joe Biden's win in the Peach State during an extraordinary leaked phone call on Saturday

Georgia's Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger

Donald Trump (left) pressured Georgia’s Republican Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger (proper) to ‘discover’ sufficient votes to overturn Joe Biden’s win within the Peach State throughout a unprecedented leaked cellphone name on Saturday

One other super quantity. We’ll have an correct quantity over the following two days with licensed accountants. However an correct quantity shall be given, nevertheless it’s within the 50s of 1000’s — and that is those that went to vote and so they have been advised they can not vote as a result of they’ve already been voted for. And it is a very unhappy factor. They walked out complaining. However the quantity’s giant. We’ll have it for you. However it’s rather more than the variety of 11,779 that is — the present margin is just 11,779. Brad, I believe you agree with that, proper? That is one thing I believe everybody — not less than that is a quantity that everybody agrees on.

However that is the distinction within the votes. However we have had a whole bunch of 1000’s of ballots that we’re capable of truly — we’ll get you a fairly correct quantity. You do not want a lot of a quantity as a result of the quantity that in concept I misplaced by, the margin could be 11,779. However you even have a considerable numbers of individuals, 1000’s and 1000’s, who went to the voting place on November 3, have been advised they could not vote, have been advised they could not vote as a result of a poll had been placed on their title. And you recognize that is very, very, very, very unhappy.

We had, I imagine it is about 4,502 voters who voted however who weren’t on the voter registration checklist, so it is 4,502 who voted, however they weren’t on the voter registration roll, which they needed to be. You had 18,325 vacant deal with voters. The deal with was vacant, and so they’re not allowed to be counted. That is 18,325.

Smaller quantity — you had 904 who solely voted the place that they had only a P.O. — a publish workplace field quantity — and so they had a publish workplace field quantity, and that is not allowed. We had not less than 18,000 — that is on tape, we had them counted very painstakingly — 18,000 voters having to do with [name]. She’s a vote scammer, an expert vote scammer and hustler [name]. That was the tape that is been proven all around the world that makes all people look dangerous, you, me and all people else.

The place they bought — primary they mentioned very clearly and it has been reported that they mentioned there was a significant water predominant break. Everyone fled the realm. After which they got here again, [name] and her daughter and some individuals. There have been no Republican ballot watchers. Really, there have been no Democrat ballot watchers, I suppose they have been them. However there have been no Democrats, both, and there was no legislation enforcement. Late within the morning, early within the morning, they went to the desk with the black gown and the black defend, and so they pulled out the votes. These votes have been put there a lot of hours earlier than — the desk was put there — I believe it was, Brad, you’d know, it was in all probability eight hours or seven hours earlier than, after which it was filled with votes.

They weren’t in an official voter field; they have been in what seemed to be suitcases or trunks, suitcases, however they weren’t in voter bins. The minimal quantity it might be as a result of we watched it, and so they watched it licensed in sluggish movement instantaneous replay for those who can imagine it, however sluggish movement, and it was magnified many occasions over, and the minimal it was 18,000 ballots, all for Biden.

You had out-of-state voters. They voted in Georgia, however they have been from out of state, of 4,925. You had absentee ballots despatched to vacant, they have been absentee ballots despatched to vacant addresses. That they had nothing on them about addresses, that is 2,326.

And also you had dropboxes, which may be very dangerous. You had dropboxes that have been picked up. We have now pictures, and we now have affidavits from many individuals.

I do not know for those who noticed the hearings, however you have got dropboxes the place the field was picked up however not delivered for 3 days. So all types of issues may have occurred to that field, together with, you recognize, placing within the votes that you just wished. So there have been many infractions, and the underside line is, many, many occasions the 11,779 margin that they mentioned we misplaced by — we had huge, I imply the state is in turmoil over this.

And I do know you want to unravel it, though I noticed you on tv right now, and also you mentioned that you just discovered nothing mistaken. I imply, you recognize, and I did not lose the state, Brad. Individuals have been saying that it was the best vote ever. There was no approach. Loads of the political individuals mentioned that there is not any approach they beat me. They usually beat me. They beat me within the . . . As you recognize, each single state, we gained each state. We gained each statehouse within the nation. We held the Senate, which is stunning to individuals, though we’ll see what occurs tomorrow or in a couple of days.

And we gained the Home, however we gained each single statehouse, and we gained Congress, which was presupposed to lose 15 seats, and so they gained, I believe 16 or 17 or one thing. I believe there is a now distinction of 5. There was presupposed to be a distinction considerably extra. However politicians in each state, however politicians in Georgia have given affidavits and are going to that, that there was no approach that they beat me within the election, that the individuals got here out, actually, they have been anticipating to lose, after which they ended up successful by loads due to the coattails. They usually mentioned there is not any approach, that they’ve accomplished many polls previous to the election, that there was no approach that they gained.

Ballots have been dropped in huge numbers. And we’re making an attempt to get to these numbers and we could have them.

They’re going to take a time period. Licensed. However however they’re huge numbers. And much better than the 11,779.

The opposite factor, lifeless individuals. So lifeless individuals voted, and I believe the quantity is shut to five,000 individuals. They usually went to obituaries. They went to all types of strategies to give you an correct quantity, and a minimal is near about 5,000 voters.

The underside line is, if you add all of it up and you then begin including, you recognize, 300,000 faux ballots. Then the opposite factor they mentioned is in Fulton County and different areas. And this may occasionally or might not be true . . . this simply got here up this morning, that they’re burning their ballots, that they’re shredding, shredding ballots and eradicating gear. They’re altering the gear on the Dominion machines and, you recognize, that is not authorized.

They usually supposedly shredded I believe they mentioned 300 kilos of, 3,000 kilos of ballots. And that simply got here to us as a report right now. And it’s a very unhappy state of affairs.

However Brad, for those who took the minimal numbers the place many, many occasions above the 11,779, and plenty of of these numbers are licensed, or they are going to be licensed, however they’re licensed. And people are numbers which can be there, that exist. And that beat the margin of loss, they beat it, I imply, by loads, and folks must be comfortable to have an correct depend as an alternative of an election the place there’s turmoil.

I imply there’s turmoil in Georgia and different locations. You are not the one one, I imply, we now have different states that I imagine shall be flipping to us very shortly. And that is one thing that — you recognize, for instance, I believe it in Detroit, I believe there is a part, part of your state truly, which we’re undecided so we’re not going to report it but. However in Detroit, we had, I believe it was, 139 % of the individuals voted. That is not too good.

In Pennsylvania, that they had properly over 200,000 extra votes than that they had individuals voting. And that does not play too properly, and the legislature there may be, which is Republican, is extraordinarily activist and offended. I imply, there have been different issues additionally that have been virtually as dangerous as that. However that they had for instance, in Michigan, an incredible variety of lifeless those that voted. I believe it was, I believe, Mark, it was 18,000. Some unbelievably excessive quantity, a lot increased than yours, you have been within the 4-5,000 class.

And that was checked out laboriously by going by way of, by going by way of the obituary columns within the newspapers.

So I suppose with all of it being mentioned, Brad, the underside line, and provisional ballots, once more, you recognize, you may have to inform me in regards to the provisional ballots, however we now have lots of people that have been complaining that they weren’t capable of vote as a result of they have been already voted for. These are nice individuals.

And, you recognize, they have been shellshocked. I do not know for those who name that provisional ballots. In some states, we had a number of provisional poll conditions the place individuals got a provisional poll as a result of once they walked in on November 3 and so they have been already voted for.

In order that’s it. I imply, we now have many, many occasions the variety of votes essential to win the state. And we gained the state, and we gained it very considerably and simply, and we’re getting, we now have, a lot of it is a very licensed, way more licensed than we’d like. However we’re getting extra numbers licensed, too. And we’re getting photos of dropboxes being delivered and delivered late. Delivered three days later, in some circumstances, plus we now have many affidavits to that impact.

Meadows: So, Mr. President, if I’d be capable to leap in, and I am going to give Brad an opportunity. Mr. Secretary, clearly there may be, there are allegations the place we imagine that not each vote or truthful vote and authorized vote was counted, and that is at odds with the illustration from the secretary of state’s workplace.

What I am eager for is there a way that we will, we will discover some form of settlement to have a look at this a little bit bit extra totally? You already know the president talked about Fulton County.

However in a few of these areas the place there appears to be a distinction of the place the info appear to guide, and so Mr. Secretary, I used to be hopeful that, you recognize, within the spirit of cooperation and compromise, is there one thing that we will not less than have a dialogue to have a look at a few of these allegations to discover a path ahead that is much less litigious?

Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger: Nicely, I listened to what the president has simply mentioned. President Trump, we have had a number of lawsuits, and we have needed to reply in court docket to the lawsuits and the contentions. We do not agree that you’ve got gained. And we do not — I did not agree in regards to the 200,000 quantity that you just’d talked about. I am going to undergo that time by level.

What we now have accomplished is we gave our state Senate about one and a half hours of our time going by way of the election difficulty by difficulty after which on the state Home, the federal government affairs committee, we gave them about two and a half hours of our time, going again level by level on all the problems of competition. After which just some days in the past, we met with our U.S. congressmen, Republican congressmen, and we gave them about two hours of our time speaking about this previous election. Going again, primarily what you’ve got talked about right here targeted in on primarily, I imagine, is the absentee poll course of. I do not imagine that you just’re actually questioning the Dominion machines. As a result of we did a hand re-tally, a one hundred pc re-tally of all of the ballots, and in contrast them to what the machines mentioned and got here up with just about the identical outcome. Then we did the recount, and we bought just about the identical outcome. So I suppose we will in all probability take that off the desk.

I do not suppose there’s a difficulty about that.

Trump: Nicely, Brad. Not that there is not a difficulty, as a result of we now have an enormous difficulty with Dominion in different states and maybe in yours. However we have not felt we wanted to go there. And simply to, you recognize, perhaps put a little bit totally different spin on what Mark is saying, Mark Meadows, yeah we would wish to go additional, however we do not actually need to. We have now all of the votes we’d like.

You already know, we gained the state. In case you took, these are probably the most minimal numbers, the numbers that I gave you, these are numbers which can be licensed, your absentee ballots despatched to vacant addresses, your out-of-state voters, 4,925. You already know if you add them up, it is many extra occasions, it is many occasions the 11,779 quantity. So we may undergo, we now have not gone by way of your Dominion. So we will not give them blessing. I imply, in different states, we predict we discovered super corruption with Dominion machines, however we’ll need to see.

However we solely misplaced the state by that quantity, 11,000 votes, and 779. So with that being mentioned, with simply what we now have, with simply what we now have, we’re supplying you with minimal, minimal numbers. We’re doing probably the most conservative numbers doable; we’re many occasions, many, many occasions above the margin. And so we do not actually need to, Mark, I do not suppose we now have to undergo . . .

Meadows: Proper

Trump: As a result of what is the distinction between successful the election by two votes and successful it by half one million votes. I believe I in all probability did win it by half one million. You already know, one of many issues that occurred, Brad, is we now have different individuals coming in now from Alabama and from South Carolina and from different states, and so they’re saying it is unimaginable so that you can have misplaced Georgia. We gained. You already know in Alabama, we set a document, bought the best vote ever. In Georgia, we set a document with a large quantity of votes. They usually say it is not doable to have misplaced Georgia.

And I may let you know by our rallies. I may let you know by the rally I am having on Monday night time, the place, they have already got traces of individuals standing out entrance ready. It is simply not doable to have misplaced Georgia. It isn’t doable. Once I heard it was shut, I mentioned there is not any approach. However they dropped a number of votes in there late at night time. You already know that, Brad. And that is what we’re engaged on very, very stringently. However no matter these votes, with all of it being mentioned, we misplaced by primarily 11,000 votes, and we now have many extra votes already calculated and licensed, too.

And so I simply do not know, you recognize, Mark, I do not know what is the function. I will not give Dominion a move as a result of we discovered too many dangerous issues. However we do not want Dominion or anything. We have now gained this election in Georgia primarily based on all of this. And there is nothing mistaken with saying that, Brad. You already know, I imply, having the right — the individuals of Georgia are offended. And these numbers are going to be repeated on Monday night time. Together with others that we’ll have by that point, that are rather more substantial even. And the individuals of Georgia are offended, the individuals of the nation are offended. And there is nothing mistaken with saying that, you recognize, that you have recalculated. As a result of the two,236 in absentee ballots. I imply, they’re all actual numbers that have been accomplished by accounting corporations, legislation corporations, and many others. And even for those who lower ’em in half, lower ’em in half and lower ’em in half once more, it is extra votes than we’d like. 

Raffensperger: Nicely, Mr. President, the problem that you’ve got is the info you have got is mistaken. We talked to the congressmen, and so they have been stunned.

However they — I suppose there was an individual named Mr. Braynard who got here to those conferences and introduced information, and he mentioned that there was lifeless individuals, I imagine it was upward of 5,000. The precise quantity have been two. Two. Two those that have been lifeless that voted. In order that’s mistaken.

Trump: Nicely, Cleta, how do you reply to that? Perhaps you inform me?

Trump legal professional Cleta Mitchell: Nicely, I’d say, Mr. Secretary, one of many issues that we now have requested and what we mentioned was, for those who look, for those who learn our petition, it mentioned that we took the names and start years, and we had sure info out there to us. We have now requested out of your workplace for data that solely you have got, and so we mentioned there’s a universe of people that have the identical title and similar start yr and died.

However we do not have the data that you’ve got. And one of many issues that we now have been suggesting formally and informally for weeks now could be so that you can make out there to us the data that may be mandatory —

Trump: However, Cleta, even earlier than you try this, and never even together with that, that is why I hardly even included that quantity, though in a single state, we now have an incredible quantity of lifeless individuals. So I do not know — I am certain we do in Georgia, too. I am certain we do in Georgia, too.

However we’re to this point forward. We’re to this point forward of those numbers, even the phony ballots of [name] , identified scammer. You already know the Web? You already know what was trending on the Web? ‘The place’s [name]?’ As a result of they thought she’d be in jail. ‘The place’s [name]?’ It is loopy, it is loopy. That was. The minimal quantity is eighteen,000 for [name] , however they suppose it is in all probability about 56,000, however the minimal quantity is eighteen,000 on the [name] night time the place she ran again in there when all people was gone and stuffed, she stuffed the poll bins. Let’s face it, Brad, I imply. They did it in sluggish movement replay magnified, proper? She stuffed the poll bins. They have been stuffed like no person has ever seen them stuffed earlier than.

So there is a time period for it when it is a machine as an alternative of a poll field, however she stuffed the machine. She stuffed the poll. Every poll went thrice, they have been displaying: This is poll No 1. Right here it’s a second time, third time, subsequent poll.

I imply, look. Brad. We have now a brand new tape that we’ll launch. It is devastating. And by the way in which, that one occasion, that one occasion is rather more than the 11,000 votes that we’re speaking about. It is, you recognize, that one occasion was a catastrophe. And it is simply, you recognize, nevertheless it was, it was one thing, it might’t be disputed. And once more, we now have a model that you have not seen, nevertheless it’s magnified. It is magnified, and you’ll see all the things. For some cause, they put it in thrice, every poll, and I do not know why. I do not know why thrice. Why not 5 occasions, proper? Go forward.

Raffensperger: You are speaking in regards to the State Farm video. And I believe it is extraordinarily unlucky that Rudy Giuliani or his individuals, they sliced and diced that video and took it out of context. The subsequent day, we introduced in WSB-TV, and we allow them to present, see the complete run of tape, and what you may see, the occasions that transpired are nowhere close to what was projected by, you recognize —

Trump: However the place have been the ballot watchers, Brad? There have been no ballot watchers there. There have been no Democrats or Republicans. There was no safety there.

It was late within the night, late within the, early within the morning, and there was no person else within the room. The place have been the ballot watchers, and why did they are saying a water predominant broke, which they did and which was reported within the newspapers? They mentioned they left. They ran out due to a water predominant break, and there was no water predominant. There was nothing. There was no break. There was no water predominant break. However we’re, for those who take out all the things, the place have been the Republican ballot watchers, even the place have been the Democrat pollwatchers, as a result of there have been none.

And you then say, properly, they left their station, you recognize, for those who have a look at the tape, and this was, this was reviewed by skilled police and detectives and different individuals, once they left in a rush, all people left in a rush due to the water predominant, however all people left in a rush. These individuals left their station.

After they got here again, they did not go to their station. They went to the apron, wrapped across the desk, underneath which have been 1000’s and 1000’s of ballots in a field that was not an official or a sealed field. After which they took these. They went again to a special station. So if they’d have come again, they’d have walked to their station, and they might have continued to work. However they could not do even that as a result of that is unlawful, as a result of that they had no Republican pollwatchers. And bear in mind, her popularity is — she’s identified all around the Web, Brad. She’s identified throughout.

I am telling you, ‘The place’s [name] ‘ was one of many scorching objects . . . [name] They knew her. ‘The place’s [name]?’ So Brad, there will be no justification for that. And I, you recognize, I give all people the advantage of the doubt. However that was — and Brad, why did they put the votes in thrice? You already know, they put ’em in thrice.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, they didn’t put that. We did an audit of that, and we proved conclusively that they weren’t scanned thrice.

Trump: The place was all people else at that late time within the morning? The place was all people? The place have been the Republicans? The place have been the safety guards? Have been the those that have been there just a bit whereas earlier than when everybody ran out of the room. How come we had no safety within the room. Why did they run to the underside of the desk? Why do they run there and simply open the skirt and rip out the votes. I imply, Brad. They usually have been sitting there, I believe for 5 hours or one thing like that, the votes.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, we’ll ship you the hyperlink from WSB.

Trump: I do not care in regards to the hyperlink. I do not want it. Brad, I’ve a a lot better —

Mitchell: I’ll let you know. I’ve seen the tape. The total tape. So has Alex. We have watched it. And what we noticed and what we have confirmed within the timing is that they made all people depart — we now have sworn affidavits saying that. After which they started to course of ballots. And our estimate is that there have been roughly 18,000 ballots. We do not know that. If you recognize that . . . 

Trump: It was 18,000 ballots, however they used every one thrice.

Mitchell: Nicely, I do not learn about that.

Trump: I do suppose we had ours magnified out.

Mitchell: I’ve watched the complete tape.

Trump: No person could make a case for that, Brad. No person. I imply, look, you’d need to be a toddler to suppose something apart from that. Only a baby.

Mitchell: What number of ballots, Mr. Secretary, are you saying have been processed then?

Raffensperger: We had GBI . . . examine that.

Germany: We had our — that is Ryan Germany. We had our legislation enforcement officers speak to everybody who was, who was there after that occasion got here to gentle. GBI was with them in addition to FBI brokers.

Trump: Nicely, there is not any approach they may — then they’re incompetent. They’re both dishonest or incompetent, okay?

Mitchell: Nicely, what did they discover?

Trump: There’s solely two solutions, dishonesty or incompetence. There’s simply no approach. Look. There isn’t any approach. And on the opposite factor, I mentioned too, there is no such thing as a approach. I imply, there is not any approach that this stuff may have been, you recognize, you have got all these totally different those that voted, however they do not reside in Georgia anymore. What was that quantity, Cleta? That was a fairly good quantity, too.

Mitchell: The quantity who’ve registered out of state after they moved from Georgia. And they also had a date once they moved from Georgia, they registered to vote out of state, after which it is like 4,500, I haven’t got that quantity proper in entrance of me.

Trump: After which they got here again in, and so they voted.

Mitchell: And voted. Yeah.

Trump: I believed that was a big quantity, although. It was within the 20s.

Ryan Germany, Raffensberger’s Normal Counsel: We have been going by way of every of these as properly, and people numbers that we bought, that Ms. Mitchell was simply saying, they are not correct. Each one we have been by way of are those that lived in Georgia, moved to a special state, however then moved again to Georgia legitimately. And in lots of circumstances —

Trump: How might individuals try this? They moved out, after which they mentioned, ‘Ah, to hell with it, I am going to transfer again.’ You already know, it would not sound like a really regular . . . you imply, they moved out, and what, they missed it a lot that they wished to maneuver again in? It is loopy.

Germany: They moved again in years in the past. This was not like one thing simply earlier than the election. So there’s one thing about that information that, it is simply not correct.

Trump: Nicely, I do not know, all I do know is that it’s licensed. They usually moved out of Georgia, and so they voted. It did not say they moved again in, Cleta, did it?

Mitchell: No, however I imply, we’re trying on the voter registration. Once more, you probably have extra data, we have been asking for that, however you have not shared any of that with us. You simply preserve saying you investigated the allegations.

Trump: Cleta, a number of it you do not must be shared. I imply, to be sincere, they need to share it. They need to share it since you need to get to an sincere election.

I gained this election by a whole bunch of 1000’s of votes. There isn’t any approach I misplaced Georgia. There isn’t any approach. We gained by a whole bunch of 1000’s of votes. I am simply going by small numbers, if you add them up, they’re many occasions the 11,000. However I gained that state by a whole bunch of 1000’s of votes.

Do you suppose it is doable that they shredded ballots in Fulton County? As a result of that is what the rumor is. And likewise that Dominion took out machines. That Dominion is admittedly transferring quick to do away with their, uh, equipment.

Are you aware something about that? As a result of that is unlawful, proper?

Trump suggested that Raffensberger and his general counsel Ryan Germany (pictured) could be subject to criminal liability if they failed to find that thousands of ballots cast in Fulton County had been illegally destroyed - despite no evidence supporting that allegation

Trump advised that Raffensberger and his basic counsel Ryan Germany (pictured) might be topic to prison legal responsibility in the event that they failed to seek out that 1000’s of ballots forged in Fulton County had been illegally destroyed – regardless of no proof supporting that allegation

Germany: That is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any equipment out of Fulton County.

Trump: However have they moved the internal elements of the machines and changed them with different elements?

Germany: No.

Trump: Are you certain, Ryan?

Germany: I am certain. I am certain, Mr. President.

Trump: What about, what in regards to the ballots. The shredding of the ballots. Have they been shredding ballots?

Germany: The one investigation that we now have into that — they haven’t been shredding any ballots. There was a difficulty in Cobb County the place they have been doing regular workplace shredding, eliminating outdated stuff, and we investigated that. However these items from, you recognize, from you recognize previous elections.

Trump: It would not move the scent check as a result of we hear they’re shredding 1000’s and 1000’s of ballots, and now what they’re saying, ‘Oh, we’re simply cleansing up the workplace.’ You already know.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, the issue you have got with social media, they — individuals can say something.

Trump: Oh this is not social media. That is Trump media. It isn’t social media. It is actually not; it is not social media. I do not care about social media. I could not care much less. Social media is Large Tech. Large Tech is in your aspect, you recognize. I do not even know why you have got a aspect since you ought to need to have an correct election. And you are a Republican.

Raffensperger: We imagine that we do have an correct election.

Trump: No, no you do not. No, no you do not. You do not have. Not even shut. You are off by a whole bunch of 1000’s of votes. And simply on the small numbers, you are off on these numbers, and these numbers cannot be simply — properly, why wont? — Okay. So that you despatched us into Cobb County for signature verification, proper? You despatched us into Cobb County, which we did not need to go into. And also you mentioned it will be open to the general public. So we had our specialists there, they weren’t allowed into the room. However we did not need Cobb County. We wished Fulton County. And also you would not give it to us. Now, why aren’t we doing signature — and why cannot it’s open to the general public?

And why cannot we now have professionals do it as an alternative of rank amateurs who won’t ever discover something and do not need to discover something? They do not need to discover, you recognize they do not need to discover something. Sometime you may inform me the explanation why, as a result of I do not perceive your reasoning, however sometime you may inform me the explanation why. However why do not you need to discover?

Germany: Mr. President, we selected Cobb County —

Trump: Why do not you need to discover . . . What?

Germany: Sorry, go forward.

Trump: So why did you do Cobb County? We did not even request — we requested Fulton County, not Cobb County. Go forward, please. Go forward.

Germany: We selected Cobb County as a result of that was the one county the place there’s been any proof submitted that the signature verification was not correctly accomplished.

Trump: No, however I advised you. We’re not, we’re not saying that.

Mitchell: We did say that.

Trump: Fulton County. Look. Stacey, for my part, Stacey is as dishonest as they arrive. She has outplayed you . . . at all the things. She bought you to signal a very unconstitutional settlement, which is a disastrous settlement. You possibly can’t test signatures. I am unable to think about you are allowed to do harvesting, I suppose, in that settlement. That settlement is a catastrophe for this nation. However she bought you someway to signal that factor, and he or she has outsmarted you at each step.

And I hate to think about what is going on to occur on Monday or Tuesday, nevertheless it’s very scary to individuals. You already know, when the ballots circulation in out of nowhere. It is very scary to individuals. That consent decree is a catastrophe. It is a catastrophe. An excellent lawyer who examined it mentioned they’ve by no means seen something prefer it.

Raffensperger: Harvesting continues to be unlawful within the state of Georgia. And that settlement settlement didn’t change that one iota.

Trump: It isn’t a settlement settlement, it is a consent decree. It even says consent decree on it, would not it? It makes use of the time period consent decree. It would not say settlement settlement. It is a consent decree. It is a catastrophe.

Raffensperger: It is a settlement settlement.

Trump: What’s written on prime of it?

Raffensperger: Ryan?

Germany: I haven’t got it in entrance of me, nevertheless it was not entered by the court docket, it is not a court docket order.

Trump: However Ryan, it is known as a consent decree, is that proper? On the paper. Is that proper?

Germany: I do not. I do not. I do not imagine so, however I haven’t got it in entrance of me. 

Trump: Okay, no matter, it is a catastrophe. It is a catastrophe. Look. This is the issue. We are able to undergo signature verification, and we’ll discover a whole bunch of 1000’s of signatures, for those who allow us to do it. And the one approach you are able to do it, as you recognize, is to go to the previous. However you did not try this in Cobb County. You simply checked out one web page in comparison with one other. The one approach you are able to do a signature verification is go from the one which signed it on November no matter. Not too long ago. And examine it to 2 years in the past, 4 years in the past, six years in the past, you recognize, and even one. And you will find that you’ve got many alternative signatures. However in Fulton, the place they dumped ballots, you will discover that you’ve got many that are not even signed and you’ve got many which can be forgeries.

Okay, you recognize that. You already know that. You haven’t any doubt about that. And you will discover you’ll be at 11,779 inside minutes as a result of Fulton County is completely corrupt, and so is she completely corrupt.

They usually’re going round taking part in you and laughing at you behind your again, Brad, whether or not you recognize it or not, they’re laughing at you. And you have taken a state that is a Republican state, and you’ve got made it virtually unimaginable for a Republican to win due to dishonest, as a result of they cheated like no person’s ever cheated earlier than. And I do not care how lengthy it takes me, you recognize, we’ll produce other states coming ahead — fairly good.

However I will not . . . that is by no means . . . that is . . . We have now some unbelievable expertise mentioned they’ve by no means seen something . . . Now the issue is that they want extra time for the massive numbers. However they’re very substantial numbers. However I believe you are going to high-quality that they — by the way in which, a little bit info — I believe you are going to discover that they’re shredding ballots as a result of they need to do away with the ballots as a result of the ballots are unsigned. The ballots are corrupt, and so they’re model new, and so they do not have seals, and there is a entire factor with the ballots. However the ballots are corrupt.

And you’re going to discover that they’re — which is completely unlawful — it’s extra unlawful for you than it’s for them as a result of, you recognize, what they did and you are not reporting it. That is a prison, that is a prison offense. And you may’t let that occur. That is an enormous danger to you and to Ryan, your lawyer. And that is an enormous danger. However they’re shredding ballots, for my part, primarily based on what I’ve heard. And they’re eradicating equipment, and so they’re transferring it as quick as they will, each of that are prison finds. And you may’t let it occur, and you’re letting it occur. You already know, I imply, I am notifying you that you just’re letting it occur. So look. All I need to do is that this. I simply need to discover 11,780 votes, which is yet one more than we now have as a result of we gained the state.

And flipping the state is a good testomony to our nation as a result of, you recognize, that is — it is a testomony that they will admit to a mistake or no matter you need to name it. If it was a mistake, I do not know. Lots of people suppose it wasn’t a mistake. It was rather more prison than that. However it’s an enormous drawback in Georgia, and it is not an issue that is going away. I imply, you recognize, it is not an issue that is going away.

Germany: That is Ryan. We’re trying into each a type of issues that you just talked about.

Trump: Good. However for those who discover it, you have to say it, Ryan.

Germany: . . . Let me let you know what we’re seeing. What we’re seeing is by no means what you are describing. These are investigators from our workplace, these are investigators from GBI, and so they’re trying, and so they’re good. And that is not what they’re seeing. And we’ll preserve trying, in any respect this stuff.

Trump: Nicely, you higher test on the ballots as a result of they’re shredding ballots, Ryan. I am simply telling you, Ryan. They’re shredding ballots. And you need to have a look at that very rigorously. As a result of that is so unlawful. You already know, you might not even imagine it as a result of it is so dangerous. However they’re shredding ballots as a result of they suppose we’ll ultimately get there . . . as a result of we’ll ultimately get into Fulton. For my part, it is by no means too late. . . . So, that is the story. Look, we’d like solely 11,000 votes. We have now are excess of that because it stands now. We’ll have an increasing number of. And . . . do you have got provisional ballots in any respect, Brad? Provisional ballots?

Raffensperger: Provisional ballots are allowed by state legislation.

Trump: Certain, however I imply, are they counted, or did you simply maintain them again as a result of they, you recognize, in different phrases, what number of provisional ballots do you have got within the state?

Raffensperger: We’ll get you that quantity.

Trump: As a result of most of them are made out to the title Trump. As a result of these are those that have been scammed once they got here in. And we now have 1000’s of those that have testified or that need to testify. After they got here in, they have been proudly going to vote on November 3. They usually have been advised, ‘I am sorry, you’ve got already been voted for, you’ve got already voted.’ The ladies, males began screaming, ‘No. I proudly voted until November 3.’ They mentioned, ‘I am sorry, however you’ve got already been voted for, and you’ve got a poll.’ And these persons are beside themselves. So that they went out, and so they stuffed in a provisional poll, placing the title Trump on it.

And what about that batch of navy ballots that got here in. And though I gained the navy by loads, it was one hundred pc Trump. I imply one hundred pc Biden. Are you aware about that? A big group of ballots got here in, I believe it was to Fulton County, and so they simply occurred to be one hundred pc for Trump — for Biden — though Trump gained the navy by loads, you recognize, an incredible quantity. However these ballots have been one hundred pc for Biden. And have you learnt about that? A really substantial quantity got here in, all for Biden. Does anyone learn about it?

Mitchell: I learn about it, however —

Trump: Okay, Cleta, I am not asking you, Cleta, actually. I am asking Brad. Are you aware in regards to the navy ballots that we now have confirmed now. Are you aware in regards to the navy ballots that got here in that have been one hundred pc, I imply one hundred pc, for Biden. Are you aware about that?

Germany: I do not learn about that. I do know that we now have, when navy ballots are available, it is not simply navy, it is also navy and abroad residents. The navy a part of that does usually go Republican. The abroad citizen a part of it usually goes very Democrat. This was a mixture of ’em.

Trump: No, however this was. That is okay. However I bought like 78 % of the navy. These ballots have been all for . . . They did not inform me abroad. May very well be abroad, too, however I get votes abroad, too, Ryan, in all equity. No they got here in, a big batch got here in, and it was, quote, one hundred pc for Biden. And that’s prison. You already know, that is prison. Okay. That is one other prison, that is one other of the various prison occasions, many prison occasions right here.

I do not know, look, Brad. I bought to get . . . I’ve to seek out 12,000 votes, and I’ve them occasions loads. And subsequently, I gained the state. That is earlier than we go to the following step, which is within the means of proper now. You already know, and I watched you this morning, and also you mentioned, properly, there was no criminality.

However I imply all of these items may be very harmful stuff. Once you discuss no criminality, I believe it’s totally harmful so that you can say that.

I simply, I simply do not know why you do not need to have the votes counted as they’re. Like even you if you went and did that test. And I used to be stunned as a result of, you recognize . . . And we discovered a couple of thousand votes that have been towards me. I used to be truly stunned as a result of the way in which that test was accomplished, all you are doing, you recognize, recertifying current votes and, you recognize, and you got votes and also you simply counted them up, and you continue to discovered 3,000 that have been dangerous. In order that was type of stunning that it got here down to a few or 5, I do not know. Nonetheless a number of votes. However it’s a must to return to test from previous years with respect to signatures. And for those who test with Fulton County, you may have a whole bunch of 1000’s as a result of they dumped ballots into Fulton County and the opposite county subsequent to it.

So what are we going to do right here, people? I solely want 11,000 votes. Fellas, I would like 11,000 votes. Give me a break. You already know, we now have that in spades already. Or we will preserve it going, however that is not truthful to the voters of Georgia as a result of they will see what occurred, and they will see what occurred. I imply, I am going to, I am going to tackle anyone you need with regard to [name] and her pretty daughter, a really pretty younger woman, I am certain. However, however [name] . . . I’ll tackle anyone you need. And the minimal, there have been 18,000 ballots, however they used them thrice. In order that’s, you recognize, a number of votes. They usually have been all to Biden, by the way in which, that is the opposite factor we did not say. You already know, [name] , the one factor I forgot to say, which was an important. You already know that each single poll she did went to Biden. You already know that, proper? Are you aware that, by the way in which, Brad?

Each single poll that she did by way of the machines at early, early within the morning went to Biden. Do you know that, Ryan?

Germany: That is not correct, Mr. President.

Trump: Huh. What’s correct?

Germany: The numbers that we’re displaying are correct.

Trump: No, about [name] . About early within the morning, Ryan. The place the girl took, you recognize, when the entire gang took the stuff from underneath the desk, proper? Are you aware, have you learnt who these ballots, have you learnt who they have been made out to, have you learnt who they have been voting for?

Germany: No, not particularly.

Trump: Did you ever test?

Germany: We did what I described to you earlier —

Trump: No no no — did you ever test the ballots that have been scanned by [name] , a identified political operative, balloteer? Did ever test who these votes have been for?

Germany: We regarded into that state of affairs that you just described.

Trump: No, they have been one hundred pc for Biden. one hundred pc. There wasn’t a Trump vote in the entire group. Why do not you need to discover this, Ryan? What’s mistaken with you? I heard your lawyer may be very tough, truly, however I am certain you are a good lawyer. You will have a pleasant final title.

However, however I am simply curious, why would not, why do you retain preventing this factor? It simply would not make sense. We’re approach over the 17,779, proper? We’re approach over that quantity, and simply for those who took simply [name] , we’re over that quantity by 5, 5 – 6 occasions if you multiply that occasions three.

And each single poll went to Biden, and also you did not know that, however now you recognize it. So inform me, Brad, what are we going to do? We gained the election, and it is not truthful to take it away from us like this. And it should be very pricey in some ways. And I believe it’s a must to say that you will reexamine it, and you’ll reexamine it, however reexamine it with those that need to discover solutions, not individuals that do not need to discover solutions. As an illustration, I am listening to Ryan that he is in all probability, I am certain an excellent lawyer and all the things, however he is making statements about these ballots that he would not know. However he is making them with such — he did make them with surety. However now I believe he is much less certain as a result of the reply is, all of them went to Biden, and that alone wins us the election by loads. You already know, so.

Raffensperger: Mr. President, you have got those that submit info, and we now have our those that submit info. After which it comes earlier than the court docket, and the court docket then has to make a dedication. We have now to face by our numbers. We imagine our numbers are proper.

Trump: Why do you say that, although? I do not know. I imply, certain, we will play this recreation with the courts, however why do you say that? To begin with, they do not even assign us a choose. They do not even assign us a choose. However why would not you . . . Hey Brad, why would not you need to take a look at [name] ? And why would not you need to say, hey, if actually, President Trump is true about that, then he wins the state of Georgia, simply that one incident alone with out going by way of a whole bunch of 1000’s of dropped ballots. You simply say, you stick by, I imply I have been watching you, you recognize, you do not care about something. ‘Your numbers are proper.’ However your numbers aren’t proper. They’re actually mistaken, and so they’re actually mistaken, Brad. And I do know this cellphone name goes nowhere apart from, apart from finally, you recognize — Look, finally, I win, okay? Since you guys are so mistaken. And also you handled this. You handled the inhabitants of Georgia so badly. You, between you and your governor, who’s down at 21, he was down 21 factors. And like a schmuck, I endorsed him, and he bought elected, however I’ll let you know, he’s a catastrophe.

The persons are so offended in Georgia, I am unable to think about he is ever getting elected once more, I am going to let you know that a lot proper now. However why would not you need to discover the suitable reply, Brad, as an alternative of preserve saying that the numbers are proper? ‘Trigger these numbers are so mistaken?

Mitchell: Mr. Secretary, Mr. President, one of many issues that we now have been, Alex can discuss this, we talked about it, and I do not know whether or not the knowledge has been conveyed to your workplace, however I believe what the president is saying, and what we have been making an attempt to do is to say, look, the court docket shouldn’t be performing on our petition. They have not even assigned a choose. However the individuals of Georgia and the individuals of America have a proper to know the solutions. And you’ve got information and data that we do not have entry to.

And you may preserve telling us and making public assertion that you just investigated this and nothing to see right here. However we do not learn about that. All we all know is what you inform us. What I do not perceive is why would not it’s in everybody’s finest curiosity to attempt to get to the underside, examine the numbers, you recognize, for those who say, as a result of . . . to attempt to have the ability to get to the reality as a result of we have no approach of confirming what you are telling us. You inform us that you just had an investigation on the State Farm Area. I haven’t got any report. I’ve by no means seen a report of investigation. I do not know that’s. I have been fairly concerned on this, and I do not know. And that is simply certainly one of 25 classes. And it would not even. And as I, because the president mentioned, we have not even gotten into the Dominion difficulty. That is not a part of our case. It isn’t a part of, we simply did not really feel as if we had any to have the ability to develop —

Trump: No, we do have a approach, however I do not need to get into it. We discovered a approach . . . excuse me, however we do not want it as a result of we’re solely down 11,000 votes, so we do not even want it. I personally suppose they’re corrupt as hell. However we do not want that. All we now have to do, Cleta, is locate 11,000-plus votes. So we do not want that. I am not trying to shake up the entire world. We gained Georgia simply. We gained it by a whole bunch of 1000’s of votes. However for those who go by primary, easy numbers, we gained it simply, simply. So we’re not giving Dominion a move on the document. We do not want Dominion as a result of we now have so many different votes that we need not show it any greater than we have already got.

Trump legal professional Kurt Hilbert: Mr. President and Cleta, that is Kurt Hilbert, if I’d interject for a second. Ryan, I want to counsel that simply 4 classes which have already been talked about by the president which have truly laborious numbers of 24,149 votes that have been counted illegally. That in and of itself is ample to vary the outcomes or place the result unsure. We want to sit down along with your workplace, and we will do it by way of functions of compromise and identical to this cellphone name, simply to take care of that restricted class of votes. And if you’ll be able to set up that our numbers aren’t correct, then high-quality. Nonetheless, we imagine that they’re correct. We have had now three to 4 separate specialists these numbers.

Trump: Licensed accountants checked out them.

Hilbert: Right. And that is simply primarily based on USPS information and your personal secretary of state information. So that is what we might entreat and ask you to do, to take a seat down with us in a compromise and settlements continuing and really undergo the registered voter IDs and the registrations. And for those who can persuade us that 24,149 is inaccurate, then high-quality. However we are likely to imagine that’s, you recognize, clearly greater than 11,779. That is ample to vary the outcomes completely in and of itself. So what would you say to that, Mr. Germany?

Germany: I am comfortable to get with our legal professionals, and we’ll set that up. That quantity shouldn’t be correct. And I believe we will present you, for all those we have checked out, why it is not. And so if that may be useful, I am comfortable to get with our legal professionals and set that up with you guys.

Trump: Nicely, let me ask you, Kurt, you suppose that’s an correct quantity. That was primarily based on the knowledge given to you by the secretary of state’s division, proper?

Hilbert: That’s right. That info is the minimal, most conservative information primarily based upon the USPS information and the secretary of state’s workplace information that has been made publicly out there. We do not need the interior numbers from the secretary of state. But we now have requested for it six occasions. I despatched a letter over to . . . a number of occasions requesting this info, and it has been rebuffed each single time. So it stands to cause that if the knowledge shouldn’t be forthcoming, there’s one thing to cover. That is the issue that we now have.

Germany: Nicely, that is not the case, sir. There are issues that you just guys are entitled to get. And there is issues that underneath legislation, we’re not allowed to offer out.

Trump: Nicely, it’s a must to. Nicely, underneath legislation, you are not allowed to offer defective election outcomes, okay? You are not allowed to do this. And that is what you accomplished. It is a defective election outcome. And actually, this could go very quick. You must meet tomorrow as a result of you have got an enormous election arising, and due to what you’ve got accomplished to the president — you recognize, the individuals of Georgia know that this was a rip-off — and due to what you’ve got accomplished to the president, lots of people aren’t going out to vote. And a number of Republicans are going to vote destructive as a result of they hate what you probably did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And they will vote. And you’d be revered. Actually revered, if this factor might be straightened out earlier than the election. You will have an enormous election arising on Tuesday. And I believe that it’s actually is essential that you just meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers. As a result of I do know, Brad, that for those who suppose we’re proper, I believe you are going to say, and I am not trying to blame anyone, I am simply saying, you recognize, and, you recognize, underneath new counts, and underneath new views, of the election outcomes, we gained the election. You already know? It is quite simple. We gained the election. Because the governors of main states and the encircling states mentioned, there is no such thing as a approach you misplaced Georgia. Because the Georgia politicians say, there is no such thing as a approach you misplaced Georgia. No person. Everybody is aware of I gained it by a whole bunch of 1000’s of votes. However I am going to let you know it should have a huge impact on Tuesday for those who guys do not get this factor straightened out quick.

Meadows: Mr. President, that is Mark. It feels like we have two totally different sides agreeing that we will have a look at these areas, and I assume that we will try this throughout the subsequent 24 to 48 hours, to go forward and get that reconciled in order that we will have a look at the 2 claims and ensuring that we get the entry to the secretary of state’s information to both validate or invalidate the claims which have been made. Is that right?

Germany: No, that is not what I mentioned. I am comfortable to have our legal professionals sit down with Kurt and the legal professionals on that aspect and clarify to him, hey, here is, primarily based on what we have checked out to this point, here is how we all know that is mistaken, that is mistaken, that is mistaken, that is mistaken, that is mistaken.

Meadows: So what you are saying, Ryan, let me let me make sure that . . . so what you are saying is you actually do not need to give entry to the info. You simply need to make one other case on why the lawsuit is mistaken?

Germany: I do not suppose we can provide entry to information that is protected by legislation. However we will sit down with them and say —

Trump: However you are allowed to have a phony election? You are allowed to have a phony election, proper?

Germany: No, sir.

Trump: When are you going to do signature counts, when are you going to do signature verification on Fulton County, which you mentioned you have been going to do, and now hastily, you are not doing it. When are you doing that?

Germany: We’re going to try this. We have introduced —

Hilbert: To get to this difficulty of the non-public info and privateness difficulty, is it doable that the secretary of state may deputize the legal professionals for the president in order that we may entry that info and personal info with out you having any form of violation?

Trump: Nicely, I do not need to know who it’s. You guys can do it very confidentially. You possibly can signal a confidentiality settlement. That is okay. I need not know names. However on these items that we’re speaking about, we bought all that info from the secretary of state.

Meadows: Yeah. So let me let me advocate, Ryan, for those who and Kurt will get collectively, you recognize, after we get off of this cellphone name, for those who may get collectively and work out a plan to handle a few of what we have along with your attorneys the place we will we will truly have a look at the info. For instance, Mr. Secretary, I are you able to say they have been solely two lifeless individuals who would vote. I can promise you there are greater than that. And which may be what your investigation reveals, however I can promise you there are greater than that. However on the similar time, I believe it is essential that we go forward and transfer expeditiously to attempt to do that and resolve it as shortly as we presumably can. And if that is the nice subsequent step. Hopefully we will, we will end this cellphone name and go forward and agree that the 2 of you’re going to get collectively instantly.

Trump: Nicely, why do not my legal professionals present you the place you bought the knowledge. It’ll present the secretary of state, and you do not even have to have a look at any names. We do not need names. We do not care. However we bought that info from you. And Stacey Abrams is laughing about you. She’s going round saying these guys are dumber than a rock. What she’s accomplished to this social gathering is unbelievable, I let you know. And I solely ran towards her as soon as. And that was with a man named Brian Kemp, and I beat her. And if I did not run, Brian would not have had even a shot, both within the basic or within the major. He was lifeless, lifeless as a doornail. He by no means thought he had a shot at both of them. What a schmuck I used to be. However that is the way in which it’s. That is the way in which it’s. I would really like you . . . for the attorneys . . . I would such as you to maybe meet with Ryan, ideally tomorrow, as a result of I believe we should always come to a decision of this earlier than the election. In any other case you are going to have individuals simply not voting. They do not need to vote. They hate the state, they hate the governor, and so they hate the secretary of state. I’ll let you know that proper now. The one those that like you’re individuals that may by no means vote for you. You already know that, Brad, proper? They such as you, you recognize, they such as you. They can not imagine what they discovered. They need extra individuals such as you. So, look, are you able to get collectively tomorrow? And, Brad, we simply need the reality. It is easy.

And everybody’s going to look superb if the reality comes out. It is okay. It takes a short time, however let the reality come out. And the true reality is, I gained by 400,000 votes. Not less than. That is the true reality. However we do not want 400,000 votes. We want lower than 2,000 votes. And are you guys capable of meet tomorrow, Ryan?

Germany: I am going to get with Chris, the lawyer who’s representing us within the case, and see when he can get along with Kurt.

Raffensperger: Ryan shall be in contact with the opposite legal professional on this name, Mr. Meadows. Thanks, President Trump, on your time.

Trump: Okay, thanks, Brad. Thanks, Ryan. Thanks. Thanks, all people. Thanks very a lot. Bye.  


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